White Child from Black Couple, Not a Miracle (Chat)

Arch-Bishop Alexander Nwodika, the primate and Founder of the Throne of Grace, Enugu, recently spoke to KlinReports on the issue of completely black couple begetting a white child.

Recently, a completely black couple gave birth to a white child. Some people think this could be miracle. Do you think it was miracle?

We have experts. Let our medical experts find out what happened.

Could be a miracle?

If it is a miracle, we thank God. And if it is manipulation, we shout. For me, there is nothing like miracle in this case. You know, we talk too much in this nation.

Then could it be a mystery?

One thing we can’t understand is that the child is white, and when you have a baby like that, there must be a black tendency somewhere. But nothing like that, so something is happening. If it were a white man that impregnated the woman, there must be mixture of some sort. The child must be a mixed breed. It can’t happen. We have not seen pure white or pure black in this type of circumstance. It is only God or medical science that would prove it.

Nigeria celebrates 50 years anniversary soon. How do you react to this?

We salute God for the stability we have, not full stability anyway. We have had a bit of stability as a nation, and we give God glory for that.

The 50 years of Nigeria will come and gone, what advise do you have for Nigerians thereafter?

There is one thing about a nation. A nation is not an empty thing. A nation is like the people there. The Bible says, ‘When the righteous is on the throne the people rejoice’. But believing that God keeps on giving us righteous men in this country, things will get better. But if we continue to have government of the bad eggs, the country will continue to suffer. So our prayer is that we have righteous men and leaders. It does appear there are few righteous men and leaders in this country.

Then, how do increase the number of righteous men and leaders who preside over our affairs?

That is why we are preaching this gospel, because if you don’t repent you can’t be righteous. When you don’t repent you won’t be righteous. You need to repent and turn your life to Christ. And to us as Christians, if a righteous leader is in government, he will not embezzle God’s money. He will not embezzle money entrusted on his hands for the welfare of his the nation. So we are asking God to help us to vote in the right people that will govern us.

Some journalists were recently kidnapped by hoodlums. Does this still bother on righteousness?

Yes, it is still on righteousness. What you have to understand- we are living in this world; we have not seen this kind of thing. You know, they started with this pick-pocket thing; from there to high-way robbery, and from there to robbery, from there to pen robbery. Then we graduated to kidnapping. I think the worst than kidnapping will surely come if we don’t know repent. Because the Bible says: ‘Whatever will happen on this earth will cause heart-break for a lot of our people’. When people are frustrated they can start doing whatever they liked doing.

By implication what seems to be cause of all these problems?

There is a lot of frustration in this nation. That is why our boys are running away. Go to American Embassy. Think about what we spend, Nigerians spend money on daily basis at the Embassy. Think about N15, 000.00. Then if they are about 300 or 200 that go there for Visa, only ten or twenty succeed and then the remaining amount of money is not refunded to them. Look at frustration-how many of our young die to escape from this country while we have oil money in this nation.

Now that you talked about oil, having prospected oil for fifty years, where are we?

One thing that you might understand, oil will not dry up in Nigeria because there are a lot of places today we have oil untapped in this nation. For example, in Anambra state, there is oil; nobody is doing anything about it. There are other parts of this nation we have oil. Nobody is doing anything there. One reason may be political but this is unfortunate.

What other ills militate against this country?

There are other things we can do. Think about Agriculture. Think about mineral resources we have in this nation. We make a lot of noise. Look at Abakiliki, look at the mineral we have there. The same thing applies to some parts of northern Nigeria. The problem we have is who is going to sit down and solve these problems than living for people that will try to make money out of it and enrich themselves and, then, keep the country in perpetual penury.

Do we have enough religious leaders in Nigeria?

We have them in this country only that we are praying that God will raise more of us that keep on blowing this trumpet.

If we have enough religious leaders, knowing that the church is very important in nation building, how come crimes continue to increase?

The problem is that even in the church there is problem today. A very serious problem. There are people that are not after this gospel. They are interested in their bellies only. Some of these people are after their bellies, and they keep blessing all these thieves because they have brought money to the church. Sometimes, you got to ask your member where he gets all the money from. What are you doing with all this money? What are you doing? I do ask some of my members. And sometimes, some of them are afraid bringing to me such ill-gotten wealth for blessing. So it is good for preachers to start looking into all these things.

Could you cast a look into the future of Nigeria?

Well! I am not a seer. But one thing I know is that it is in two ways. If you have good leaders, Nigeria will be so good. If you have bad ones, that is destruction. At the same time, we should turn their lives to Christ and live for him. When you have good people in government you have future. It depends on the people. There are people that will come into government, they destroy this nation. When you read the bible, there are people that destroyed the world. But God said there are people that are destroying this world, and he is going to destroy them.

But many think that the church can actively take part in politics?

There are those who are called for that, not everyone. You don’t dabble into it, unto the Lord when he has not called you. There are many but only some are called. For example, if you get into South Africa, you will see Desmond Tutu. He is a religious man, he was called into that, not all the priest these days are doing what he was doing. If I am called as a politician, I will not go but there are people that God calls to do his work.

What have your experiences as a religious leader been like?

Well! I have been in the church leadership since after the Nigeria civil war. I have been a preacher for 40 years now. It was after the war that I got converted. I came out serving God. My call was to preach the gospel and lead people to Christ. That is what I am still doing.
Another set of elections will come in the next few months. What is your advice to Nigerians?
Every vote must count. We just pray that every vote will count. God will help us with this nation. At this time, you can’t rule out corruption in this nation; Iit is there but we only pray that God will give us righteous men to rule in Nigeria. That is our prayer.